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Re: [無雷] World War Z (探此片殭屍的食人性)
Jun 23rd 2013, 13:03

作者PatsyGallagh ('cause we believe...)

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標題Re: [無雷] World War Z (探此片殭屍的食人性)

時間Sun Jun 23 13:03:14 2013

想岔題談一下 對於死忠hardcore 或者傳統派的殭屍迷 從 Romero 就傳承下來的設定的重要和必要性 以下是 Simon Pegg 在英國媒體發表的文章 主要在談行動「快速」的活死人(《倒數毀滅28天》病毒那種) 對他而言,已經不能算是殭屍 zombie 了 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/04/television-simon-pegg-dead-set 下面是我擷取重點的翻譯和雜感: Everyone knows the undead don't run - so how come they were sprinting about in Charlie Brooker's recent TV drama? Simon Pegg argues for a return to traditional zombie values 英國最近出現新的「殭屍」影集,然而裡頭的「殭屍」是速度很快會跑的那種 所以Simon Pegg就寫了一篇很長的文章 旨在「捍衛」傳統 慢慢走 不會跑 的 經典 Romero殭屍 I know it is absurd to debate the rules of a reality that does not exist, but this genuinely irks me. You cannot kill a vampire with an MDF stake; werewolves can't fly; zombies do not run. It's a misconception, a bastardisation that diminishes a classic movie monster. 「我知道去辯論捍衛並不存在於現實的規則設定很荒謬, 但是(速度快的活死人)真的非常讓我受不了。 這種感覺就像是你不能拿密迪板製的樁去殺吸血鬼, 狼人不會飛,而是殭屍就不應該會跑。 錯誤的認知,後來強加衍生的產物,只會讓經典的電影怪物(形象)逐漸喪失。」 More significantly, the fast zombie is bereft of poetic subtlety. As monsters from the id, zombies win out over vampires and werewolves when it comes to the title of Most Potent Metaphorical Monster. Where their pointy-toothed cousins are all about sex and bestial savagery, the zombie trumps all by personifying our deepest fear: death. Zombies are our destiny writ large. Slow and steady in their approach, weak, clumsy, often absurd, the zombie relentlessly closes in, unstoppable, intractable. 這一段所有的殭屍迷都會為之哭哭吧!!! Simon Pegg 認為 殭屍可以打敗吸血鬼、狼人等其他經典怪物的地方在於 殭屍的形象內涵 有種「低調的詩意」和隱喻的潛力 吸血鬼/狼人不外乎和 性與暴力等直接的慾望做連接 但是 殭屍 等於是人類最深的恐懼:死亡 的某種化身 「持續而緩慢的接近我們」雖然笨手笨腳也很荒謬 殭屍/死亡 無法真正被阻絕 非常棘手 Another thing: speed simplifies the zombie, clarifying the threat and reducing any response to an emotional reflex... The absence of rage or aggression in slow zombies makes them oddly sympathetic, a detail that enabled Romero to project depth on to their blankness, to create tragic anti-heroes; his were figures to be pitied, empathised with, even rooted for. 另外就是,強調 速度 會簡化殭屍這種怪物 (傳統慢慢的)殭屍之所以很特別的另外一點 就是牠們缺乏人類情緒 那種異樣表情 反而有時候會勾起我們的同情心 也能讓Romero把死亡詮釋、投射在那些看似腦袋空空卻又和我們接近的怪物身上 Simon Pegg 稱呼殭屍為「帶有悲劇色彩的反英雄角色」 Meanwhile, Danny Boyle and Alex Garland were developing their own end-of-the-world fable, 28 Days Later, an excellent film misconstrued by the media as a zombie flick. Boyle and Garland never set out to make a zombie film per se. They drew instead on John Wyndham's Day of the Triffids, as well as Matheson and Romero's work, to fashion a new strain of survival horror, featuring a London beset by rabid propagators of a virus known as "rage". 講到速度 大概所有的殭屍迷都會想到《28天倒數毀滅》裡面的生化怪物 這邊 Simon Pegg 特別強調 這部電影 不是 殭屍類型 就連導演/編劇都否認他們是要拍殭屍片 只是從Romero的經典擷取部分靈感 Simon覺得這部是「新型的倖存者恐怖片」 "Fast zombies however are not my bag." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 我個人在看《Warm Bodies殭屍哪有那麼帥》的過程 完全的坐立不安,甚至覺得心目中的「殭屍」被污辱和剝削了T^T~ 我想我大概是無可救藥的傳統派吧 因此我也不打算去看電影版的《末日Z戰》 Cheers! Patsy "Gallagher" -- Let's pick it up, let's even try to live today, so why not smile don't dream away your life 'cause it is mine Is that a crime? This life is mine... --Verve, HISTORY -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 125.224.236.115 ※ 編輯: PatsyGallagh 來自: 125.224.236.115 (06/23 13:08)

moscode:推緩慢持續而無法阻擋,殭屍與死亡之間的連結蠻有趣的。 06/23 13:20

moustique:不過,會跑的僵屍比較嚇人耶… 06/23 13:53

moustique:不然像香港設定的僵屍片,都是用跳的…怎麼辦? 06/23 13:53

moustique:我是覺得Romero從海地取經,只是一個開端,應百花爭鳴 06/23 13:55

moustique:BTW,末日之戰的僵屍設定,我是覺得真的很不錯。 06/23 13:55

EVA96:那陰屍路也一樣有廣大的群眾支持啊 06/23 14:02

EVA96:慢慢走的殭屍一樣也有嚇人之處 這就是導演的功力了 06/23 14:03

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